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I am giving you the keys so that you can come in versus I am calling you so that you can come?

Jennifer

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23 July 2017

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I am giving you the keys so that you can come in versus I am calling you so that you can come?

In the first sentence puisses entrer is used, in the second viennes with the can understood. Is it a general rule that can is as it were rolled into the subjunctive unless a physical possibility is being discussed?

This relates to:
Pour que (so that, in order that) is always followed by Le Subjonctif Présent (subjunctive mood) -

Ron

Kwiziq community member

23 July 2017

23/07/17

Bonjour Jennifer,
I am unable to locate the phrase in the lesson for your comparative example: I am calling you so that you can come
For your second example, this is how I would/could state it:
Je vous appelle pour que vous pouvez venir. (this is technically incorrect)
For the first part of the example, the use of le subjonctif présent is correct.
One thing to keep in mind is this:
I think that the examples given are for demonstration of the grammar point. Here is another translation for the first example:
«Je vous remets les clés de sorte que vous pussiez entrer»
As one can readily see, this phrase also uses le subjonctif.
Having said that, there are phrase constructs that allow for not using le subjonctif, here is one link:
http://www.laits.utexas.edu/tex/gr/tas8.html
There are some schools of thought that teach this method. For myself, I prefer to learn le subjonctif usage correctly.
Bonne chance dans vos études en français.
Ron

Jennifer

Kwiziq community member

23 July 2017

23/07/17

The full sentences given were as follows:-
Je t'appelle pour que tu viennes - I'm calling you so you can come (in one of the quizes) and Je te donne mes clés pour que tu puisses entrer - I'm giving you my keys so that you may come in - from the pour que lesson. I just wondered why the first example did not use puisses venir which would have followed what the second example did.

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