Passe compose for a reflexive verb.

Deborah

Kwiziq community member

28 April 2018

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Passe compose for a reflexive verb.

The answer to a question in the Kwiz was "Nous nous sommes brosse" (with an accent).  Shouldn't that have been brosses (with an accent)?

This question relates to:
French lesson "Conjugate reflexive verbs (+être) in Le Passé Composé (conversational past)"

Chris

Kwiziq community member

28 April 2018

28/04/18

Nous nous sommes brossés. Or alternatively, for an all female group: Nous nous sommes brossées  

-- Chris (not a native speaker). 

Chris

Kwiziq community member

28 April 2018

28/04/18

Nous nous sommes brossés. Or alternatively, for an all female group: Nous nous sommes brossées  

-- Chris (not a native speaker). 

Nicholas

Kwiziq community member

28 August 2018

28/08/18

Hi Deborah.  This caught me out too.  But I think the Kwiz answer (full answer: "Nous nous sommes brossé les cheveux") is correct.  According to e.g. http://la-conjugaison.nouvelobs.com/regles/orthographe/l-accord-du-participe-passe-des-verbes-pronominaux-188.php there is no agreement of the past participle with the subject when a direct object follows.  They give the example of "Ils se sont lavé les mains".  This would seem to apply here also.

Perhaps there is a lesson on this that I haven't found.  If not, it would be nice to have one.

ps. I read a recent article where it said that French school kids spend 80 hours on average learning the rules for past participle agreement!

Nicole

Kwiziq community member

3 November 2018

3/11/18

Hi Deborah, I had this same question. Did a little research online, and it turns out there is agreement with the past participle IF the reflexive pronoun is a direct object of the verb, as in "Nous nous sommes habillés." But when the reflexive pronoun is an indirect object, as in "Il se sont acheté un chien" there is no agreement. The answer is here in this link under #5: http://www.leaflanguages.org/french-grammar-reflexive-verbs-passe-compose-past-tense/

Arndis

Kwiziq community member

8 November 2018

8/11/18

I had the same problem. An explanation of this should be added to the lesson above. 

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