arriver - the position of [time]

Toby M.A2Kwiziq community member

arriver - the position of [time]

Hi!

In the notes to this section it says:
Je suis arrivé dix minutes en retard.

But in the video the guy says at 1:06 :
L'avion est arrivé en retard d'une heure.

You even give follow-up examples where the time is at the end of a sentence.
So.....with arriver/venir/commencer/finir (without avec) - it doesn't matter if I put the [time] before or after en retard?

Because if that is the case, then an addition in the "attention section" would be nice:
or
[5 minutes] en retard / [5 minutes] en avance

or

en retard or [5 minutes] en avance / [5 minutes] 


Okay, and now I got myself even more confused....😂

Asked 9 months ago
CélineKwiziq Native French TeacherCorrect answer

Bonjour Toby,

You can hear French Native speaker say "arriver/venir/commencer/finir + en retard de +[time]" but it is not grammatically correct. So, thanks to your comment, this video has now been removed. Make sure to use the expressions from our lesson.

I hope this is helpful.

Bonne journée !

M. I.A2Kwiziq community member

Hmmm,

Prof Céline says:

"Bonjour Toby,

You can hear French Native speaker say "en retard de +[time]" but it is not grammatically correct. So, thanks to your comment, this video has now been removed. Make sure to use the expressions from our lesson.

I hope this is helpful.

Bonne journée !"

However on https://www.dictionnaire-academie.fr/article/A8R1447 I could find the following example 

"Votre montre est en retard de deux minutes."

And on https://www.dictionnaire-academie.fr/article/A9R2188

"Une équipe en retard de dix points au classement."

Not time, exactly, but similar construction.

Am I missing something?

Matias

CélineKwiziq Native French Teacher

Bonjour M,

Thank you for your query! I have edited my previous answer as I realised I missed something (i.e. the French verbs mentioned in Toby's query).

I hope this is helpful.

Bonne journée !

Toby M. asked:

arriver - the position of [time]

Hi!

In the notes to this section it says:
Je suis arrivé dix minutes en retard.

But in the video the guy says at 1:06 :
L'avion est arrivé en retard d'une heure.

You even give follow-up examples where the time is at the end of a sentence.
So.....with arriver/venir/commencer/finir (without avec) - it doesn't matter if I put the [time] before or after en retard?

Because if that is the case, then an addition in the "attention section" would be nice:
or
[5 minutes] en retard / [5 minutes] en avance

or

en retard or [5 minutes] en avance / [5 minutes] 


Okay, and now I got myself even more confused....😂

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