Pendant/durant.....

Malini S.B2Kwiziq community member

Pendant/durant.....

In the test the sentence reads "I left for about 15 days."  I put Je suis partie pour quinzaine de jours".  They say the correct answer is "Je suis partie une quinzaine de jours." Could I have used pendant or durant?

Asked 4 years ago
CélineNative French expert teacher in KwiziqCorrect answer

Bonjour Malini,

In this example, with approximate numbers you could have:

pendant une + [approximate numbers]

je suis partie pendant une dizaine de jours = I left for about ten days

 

pour + une [approximate numbers]

je suis partie pour une vingtaine de jours I left for about twenty days

 

Here is a link on how to express duration: duration-with-pendant-durant-depuis-or-pour

 

I hope this is helpful.

Bonne journée!

Maarten K.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

The linked lesson expressly states you can only use « pour » for a future event. That does not fit with one of the answers given in Céline's response that « Je suis partie pour une vingtaine de jours » is a correct option. 

As a sentence out of context, it is somewhat ambiguous as to whether the event is completed or ongoing, but it is clearly not 'future'. 

Treating it as a past completed event the choices are interchangeable between : no qualifier (as the answer seems to have been), pendant or durant. 

Can we get clarification on whether the answer here using « pour » is incorrect, or the lesson ? If both are correct, how ?

Expressing for + [duration] in French with either pendant/durant/depuis/pour (French Prepositions of Time)

Alan G.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Maarten, perhaps Cécile's replies to Deborah & me in the following Q&A might help:

https://progress.lawlessfrench.com/questions/view/pour-in-future-or-the-past

In brief, "pour for future time OR intended action"

The preferred answer to the question is "partie une quinzaine de jours", but "partie pour une quinzaine de jours" is also marked correct.

Maarten K.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Thanks Alan. Certainly useful to read, but as you noted in the discussion, the description given by Cécile is at odds with many others. As an English speaker, I would be more than happy to find more uses for « pour » than 'just the future' ! The pluperfect example seems to make sense, but if it also extends to applying to passé composé and gives a different meaning to using « pour » or « pendant/durant » for future events, it means all the explanations I have seen are significantly lacking - and they could be ! I have not found any other commentary on literally more than a dozen sites that are really consistent with it - and even the lesson here that it relates to is included in that list. I am trying to find a comprehensive French grammar reference to cover this - I don't have easy access to one presently. 

At the very least, the content of the lesson/s and the responses (labelled "correct") to questions on this topic on this site should be reviewed and reconciled for consistency.

Alan G.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

You can see the relevant part of this grammar book online: https://tinyurl.com/y2glwq7g

The following example is given:

Elle est venue pour quelques jours. = She came for a few days.

I think you can reconcile the different lessons if you consider it as being in the future relative to the verb "venir".

Maarten K.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Yes, Alan, I think it works for a number of verbs - venir/sortir/partir and others. I am fairly confident I have it worked out, but the lesson, and indeed the responses to date, don’t fully cover what I have concluded. Neither does the use of “future” without clarification. 

Malini S. asked:

Pendant/durant.....

In the test the sentence reads "I left for about 15 days."  I put Je suis partie pour quinzaine de jours".  They say the correct answer is "Je suis partie une quinzaine de jours." Could I have used pendant or durant?

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