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Se Parler au Passé Composé

Gilbert J.C1Kwiziq community member

Se Parler au Passé Composé

Hi Team

Is "Se Parler"  always conjugated without the past participle agreement ?

Example : Elle se sont parlé.

If no, can you give an example sentence with past participle agreement.

please check:  https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/french-english/se-parler 

where the table shows agreement of Past participle. 

Thank you.

Asked 1 year ago
Maarten K.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor Correct answer

Gilbert, ‘se parler ‘ is intransitive - it does not take a direct object. The reflexive pronoun is always the indirect object pronoun and hence no agreement occurs. 

See links - in particular the explanation on Laura Lawless site : 

https://www.wordreference.com/fren/se%20parler

 https://www.lawlessfrench.com/grammar/agreement-with-pronominal-verbs/

Gilbert J.C1Kwiziq community member

@ Maarten

Then why in few dictionaries and in few websites which I had referred, they are showing the conjugation with past participle agreement.

check few example sentences here showing agreement: 

Elles ne se sont pas parlées depuis la guerre.

sourece : https://context.reverso.net/translation/french-english/elles+se+sont+parl%C3%A9es

Jim J.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Bonjour Gilbert,

Unfortunately, we are not able to rely on some translation services  --  they do not always get the grammar correct.

Martin is correct  --  the verb parler requires a preposition to complete its meaning and therefore the reflexive pronoun will always be representing an indirect object.

Hope this helps.

Bonne journée

Jim

Se Parler au Passé Composé

Hi Team

Is "Se Parler"  always conjugated without the past participle agreement ?

Example : Elle se sont parlé.

If no, can you give an example sentence with past participle agreement.

please check:  https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/french-english/se-parler 

where the table shows agreement of Past participle. 

Thank you.

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