Some different translations

N. Hilary (Shamrockhill) W.C1KwizIQ Q&A super contributor

Some different translations

Bonjour,

I used different translations for the following three words/phrases:

"un désaccord" for "rift", which is listed in Collins dictionary as the translation for a "rift between people or governments"; and also in LaRousse for "une querelle"; Please note that neither Collins nor LaRousse has "une brouille" for the translation of "rift".

"se défaire de" in Collins for "to part with something" (as in "se séparer de"); and in LaRousse for "to rid oneself of";

"habile" for "skilled" in Collins for "skilled at/in something" as in "etre habile a quelque chose".

For "skilled" I purposely did not use "doué" because "gifted" while conveying a similar meaning is not the same in my mind as "skilled".

These were all marked wrong, but thoughts please?  Qu'en pensez-vous ?

Merci beaucoup et bonne continuation,

Hilary

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CélineKwizIQ Native French TeacherCorrect answer

Bonjour N. Hilary,

- "brouille" is very standard, idiomatic French for exactly this situation. Also, keep in mind that dictionaries can't list every valid option. However, we added "une querelle" as a valid option while "un désaccord" is not strong enough (it suggests a rift but people would still be talking ; this is not the case here).

- "se défaire de" can be interchangeable with "se séparer de" in some contexts. So, it's been added to the options but "se séparer de" is definitely the BEST option.

- "habile" is correct and part of the correct option. The only reason it could have been marked as incorrect is due to the preposition:

habile en [noun] vs habile à [faire]

Je suis habile en affaires = I am a shrewd business person

Je suis habile à me cacher = I am skilled at hiding myself

But, here, "doué" is definitely the best option.

 

I hope this is helpful.

Bonne journée !

N. Hilary (Shamrockhill) W.C1KwizIQ Q&A super contributor

Merci Celine,

Thank you for your detailed response. Although there is no way for me to go back and read exactly what I wrote, I believe that the preposition I used with "Habile" was "de". This is because for the translation of "skilled/skillful", both Collins and Larousse gave the example of: 

  "être habile de ses mains" - "to be good ou clever with one's hands"

Larousse also lists "adroit". ("etre adroit de ses mains.") But, reading it again I see that they also give: 

   "être doué pour faire quelque chose" - "to be skilled in doing something"

If I understand correctly then, in this case, the best way to use "habile" would be: 

"etre habile en ferronerie".

Just wanted to share this with you and thank you once again,

Bonne continuation, 

Hilary

 

N. Hilary (Shamrockhill) W. asked:

Some different translations

Bonjour,

I used different translations for the following three words/phrases:

"un désaccord" for "rift", which is listed in Collins dictionary as the translation for a "rift between people or governments"; and also in LaRousse for "une querelle"; Please note that neither Collins nor LaRousse has "une brouille" for the translation of "rift".

"se défaire de" in Collins for "to part with something" (as in "se séparer de"); and in LaRousse for "to rid oneself of";

"habile" for "skilled" in Collins for "skilled at/in something" as in "etre habile a quelque chose".

For "skilled" I purposely did not use "doué" because "gifted" while conveying a similar meaning is not the same in my mind as "skilled".

These were all marked wrong, but thoughts please?  Qu'en pensez-vous ?

Merci beaucoup et bonne continuation,

Hilary

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