Subjunctive trigger

BrianC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Subjunctive trigger

In “Et il arrive trop souvent que les enclos soient trop étroits pour leurs occupants.” What triggers the subjunctive? Should I consider “il arrive que” to trigger it as a general rule?

Asked 1 year ago
MaartenC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor Correct answer

According to Larousse subjunctive is necessary with past tenses, and also the current, common usage in present tense with ‘arriver que’. Using the indicative with present tense is not wrong but considered more formal and older-style usage though, so subjunctive wins presently. https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/arriver/5457#difficulte

BrianC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Thanks Maarten, I’ll add this to my growing list of “subjunctive triggers” :)

CélineKwiziq team member

Bonjour Brian,

Maarten is right! "arriver que" can be used with L'Indicatif. However, it is nowadays very rare and primarily found in literary work. I would suggest using Le Subjonctif first and foremost.  

If in any doubt about using Le Subjonctif with a verb or an expression, please use the following tool from one of our partner sites: https://www.lawlessfrench.com/subjunctivisor/

I hope this is helpful.

Bonne journée !

BrianC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Ahh! I will definitely be spending some time on that Lawless French link! Thanks

Subjunctive trigger

In “Et il arrive trop souvent que les enclos soient trop étroits pour leurs occupants.” What triggers the subjunctive? Should I consider “il arrive que” to trigger it as a general rule?

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