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NOTE that just like in English despite [someone/something] and in spite of [someone/something] are interchangeable, so in French you can use either malgré [quelque chose/quelqu'un] or en dépit de [quelque chose/quelqu'un].
The preposition malgré is closer to despite, whereas the expression en dépit de is closer to in spite of.
When it comes to people (e.g. despite myself), you can either use:
- malgré + moi/toi/elle/lui/nous/vous/elles/eux
OR
- en dépit de + moi-même/toi-même/elle-même/lui-même/nous-mêmes/vous-mêmes/eux-mêmes/elles-mêmes.
Special cases
- The expression en dépit du bon sens means against all common sense.
- In some cases, the expression malgré tout (despite everything) can also mean anyway.
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Hi Charmond,
The lesson is in ‘draft' version so it shouldn’t be visible, I will let Aurélie know.
Thanks for pointing it out.
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Thank you for letting us know! The bad link has been removed from this lesson :)
Bonne journée !
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En dépit du
Hi
Why is the test answer as follows: Je prends cette rue en dépit du panneau stop instead of en dépit de panneau stop? I couldn't see any explanations for this on the lesson, I could on see du used in the exception en dépit du bon sense.
Thanks
Sandra
Asked 5 months ago
En dépit “de le” panneau stop. — Despite the stop sign.
The definite article le makes de to du.
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En dépit du
Hi
Why is the test answer as follows: Je prends cette rue en dépit du panneau stop instead of en dépit de panneau stop? I couldn't see any explanations for this on the lesson, I could on see du used in the exception en dépit du bon sense.
Thanks
Sandra
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Hi Meghan,
As 'malgré que' is frowned upon in French ( and regarded as bad French) it is always safer to avoid it and use 'bien que ' instead if followed by a verb rather than a noun.
e.g
Bien qu'il m'ait promis de venir, je l'attends toujours = Even though he promised to come, I am still waiting for him
Elle garde l'espoir bien qu'elle soit déçue = She remains hopeful although she is disappointed
Il est venu me voir bien qu'il soit en retard = He came to see me even though he is late
Il est parti faire du jogging bien qu'il soit souffrant = He went jogging even though he is not well
Please note that it is followed by the subjunctive.
Chris Kwiziq Q&A super contributor
Are you thinking of something along these lines?
Malgré avoir mangé j'ai encore faim.
MeghanKwiziq community member
Yes, but my research from yesterday seemed to imply that for something like that, you would use bien que?
Chris Kwiziq Q&A super contributor
Yes, it should be. A quick inquiry with a native speaker revealed, however, that you could also say, malgré que j'ai mangé, ...
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There was some issue with the file at that moment. It's available now. Thanks.
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RobertKwiziq Q&A regular contributor
So is this test question response: "Malgré la fumée, il commença à mieux respirer." a time when we should use passé simple when saying something?
Asked 1 year ago
Chris Kwiziq Q&A super contributor
Hi Robert,
unfortunately this is impossible to tell out of context.
The passé simple is only used in literary French and practically never in spoken French. It is used when you are talking about an action which happened in the past, whose consequences are also contained in the past and don't extend to the present. Also, it indicates usually that the action happened at a certain time An example would be a story or fairy tale, "Once upon a time there lived a kind...."
The passé composé has all but replaced the passé simple. However, in deciding between the two you would tend to use passé composé for actions in the past which happen at an indefinite or unspecified time and whose results extend into the present.
J'ai trop mangé ce midi. -- I ate too much at noon.
Il a emprunté une importante somme d'argent. -- He borrowed an important sum of money.
La bataille de Marignan eut lieu en 1515. -- The battle of Marignon took place in 1515.
Jean se leva, sortit de la pièce et ne revint plus. -- Jean got up, left the room and didn't return anymore.
-- Chris
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So is this test question response: "Malgré la fumée, il commença à mieux respirer." a time when we should use passé simple when saying something?
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JenniferKwiziq Q&A regular contributor
En dépit d'elle Katia commença à espérer
Why is this incorrect?
Asked 3 years ago
LauraKwiziq team member
Bonjour Jennifer,
As the lesson states:
or people (e.g. despite myself), you can either use: - malgré + moi/toi/elle/lui/nous/vous/elles/eux
OR
en dépit de + moi-même/toi-même/elle-même/lui-même/nous-mêmes/vous-mêmes/eux-mêmes/elles-mêmes
So because the question had "elle" the correct answer can only be malgré. For en dépit de to be correct, you'd have to use elle-même.
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