Non plus = neither / nor (negation)

Look at these opposites:

Je vois Boris.
- Moi aussi!

I see Boris.
- Me too!

 

Je ne vois pas Boris.
- Moi non plus!

I don't see Boris.
- Me neither!

 

Note that non plus (neither) is the negative of aussi (also/too)

In French, it's actually simpler than in English for once, as you always use non plus as a shorter way to answer in the negative (i.e. neither or nor), as such:

Je ne mange pas beaucoup. - Non, moi non plus.
I don't eat much. - No, me neither.
I don't eat much. - No, nor do I.

Je n'ai pas payé la facture d'électricité. Le chauffage non plus.
I didn't pay the electricity bill. Nor the heating.

Elle n'aime pas la vanille. Et le chocolat non plus.
She doesn't like vanilla. Nor chocolate.

Note that because plus is used in a negative context here, you don't pronounce the final "s".


See also Ne ... pas non plus = Not ... either (negation) 

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Examples and resources

Je ne vois pas Boris.
- Moi non plus!

I don't see Boris.
- Me neither!


Je n'ai pas payé la facture d'électricité. Le chauffage non plus.
I didn't pay the electricity bill. Nor the heating.


Elle n'aime pas la vanille. Et le chocolat non plus.
She doesn't like vanilla. Nor chocolate.


Je ne mange pas beaucoup. - Non, moi non plus.
I don't eat much. - No, me neither.
I don't eat much. - No, nor do I.


counter example


Je vois Boris.
- Moi aussi!

I see Boris.
- Me too!


Q&A Forum 3 questions, 6 answers

ShirA1Kwiziq community member

Is there a relationship between pronouncing the final "s" and being a negative context?

"Note that because plus is used in a negative context here, you don't pronounce the final "s"."

Asked 4 months ago
ChrisC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor Correct answer

There are actually rules that specify in which context to use which pronunciation of plus. One such general rule is that, indeed, in a positive context you pronounce the -s and in a negative one you don't. There are a few other rules plus the case of a liaison with the next word (if that starts with a vowel).

Rather than duplicate what's available online, I'll refer you to a page I found helpful (there's also a worksheet to test your knowledge at the end): http://frenchyourway.com.au/how-to-pronounce-plus-in-french

Is there a relationship between pronouncing the final "s" and being a negative context?

"Note that because plus is used in a negative context here, you don't pronounce the final "s"."

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DonC1Kwiziq community member

In a multi-answer test question, I was marked off for not including "Not us" as a possible translation for "Nous non plus."

I don't see that meaning in this lesson. Wouldn't the back translation for "Not us" be "Pas nous?"
Asked 1 year ago
AlexanderA2Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

I assume that this has been corrected now, because it is now a wrong answer

In a multi-answer test question, I was marked off for not including "Not us" as a possible translation for "Nous non plus."

I don't see that meaning in this lesson. Wouldn't the back translation for "Not us" be "Pas nous?"

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Milton A1Kwiziq community member

what's the difference between "non plus" and "ni" they both seem to mean neither and nor

Asked 2 years ago
GruffKwiziq team member
Hi Milton - good question. Here's how ne... ni... is used: Ne ... ni ... ni = Neither ... nor (negation)">Ne ... ni ... ni = Neither ... nor (negation)">Ne ... ni ... ni = Neither ... nor (negation)">Ne ... ni ... ni = Neither ... nor (negation)

This construct is used when you have a 'neither X nor Y (nor Z)' list of things, whereas 'non plus' appears after one person or thing.
SueC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor
ni ...... ni is where in English you would use neither... nor. Non plus is used for example if someone says I am not cold you could say -me neither, or neither am I . It will follow a phrase in the negative as in English. If someone says I am hot you would say so am I or me too, and not neither.
Milton A1Kwiziq community member
Thank you very much Gruff and Sue. I get it now. You can say "je n'aime ni le fromage ni le lait" with the ni....ni construction, and with non plus when someone says "je n'aime le fromage" you can say "non plus".
ApumarodeA1Kwiziq community member
You mean "Je n'aime pas le fromage"?

what's the difference between "non plus" and "ni" they both seem to mean neither and nor

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