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Bob est réveillé

JohnC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Bob est réveillé

Write "Bob is woken up by the alarm clock every day." : Bob ________ le réveil tous les jours.

The correct answer is "Bob est réveillé par le réveil tous les jours.

I get that the alarm clock is the subject, that Bob is the object, so the sentence is in the passive voice. What confuses me is "est réveillé." What tense is that? Since it is habitual, I think of l'imparfait ("réveillait"). Then "est reveillé" seems like passé composé, with an auxilliare followed by the participe passé, but avoir is the auxilliare for réveiller, not être. Word Reference shows reveillé as an adjective, but it seems like a verb as it is used in this sentence.


I'm sure as soon as I hit "Ask Question" the answer will be blindingly obvious to me, but in case that doesn't happen, could someone clear this up? Thanks!

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Asked 1 year ago
MaartenC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor Correct answer

Worth looking at the lessons and video linked below - the passive voice in simple and complex tenses (well covered here) and use of passé composé for past habits etc that are true in the present as well (very clearly covered in Hugo’ s excellent video on imparfait or passé composé).

1. The statement you quote is giving no information about the past - it is present tense passive voice -est réveillé par 

2. Imparfait would only be appropriate if this was no longer happening était réveillé par - a past habit, not continuing

3. If a past habit still happening, passé composé with qualifier -a toujours été réveillé par - is appropriate. Check out the excellent video from Hugo under advanced cases at about the 14 minute mark. Forming La Voix Passive with simple tenses in French (French Passive Voice)     Forming La Voix Passive with simple tenses in French (French Passive Voice)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rpQ5xeFneg

 

JimC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Hi John,

The third-person singular present active voice would be "Il réveille" (he awakes) and in the present passive voice "Il est réveillé". (he is awaked)

I agree with your point about the "habitual" action (every day) but the above is the conjugations as I understand it.

Bonne Journée

Jim

JohnC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Thanks Jim and Maarten!

Ah, of course I forgot the second rule for transforming a sentence to la voix passive:

1) Put the object at the front of the sentence.

2) Use the appropriate tense of être followed by le participe passé.

So, while est réveillé  would not make sense in other circumstances it is required in a sentence using la voix passive.

Someday this will all sink in. I hope.

Thanks again.

JohnC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Thanks Jim and Maarten!

Ah, of course I forgot the second rule for transforming a sentence to la voix passive:

1) Put the object at the front of the sentence.

2) Use the appropriate tense of être followed by le participe passé.

So, while est réveillé  would not make sense in other circumstances it is required in a sentence using la voix passive.

Someday this will all sink in. I hope.

Thanks again.

MikeB2Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

This sentence in English goes all over me.   "Bob is woken"--is that proper English in the UK?  Certainly wouldn't be in the US.  Of course, "I've got" get me as well.

MikeB2Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

This sentence in English goes all over me.   "Bob is woken"--is that proper English in the UK?  Certainly wouldn't be in the US.  Of course, "I've got" get me as well.

MaartenC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Mike, regional differences etc. My own use would be different, being neither British nor American.  

https://thegrammarexchange.infopop.cc/topic/waken-woken

MikeB2Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Maarten--thanks for the link.  Looks as if one can say it pretty much however one wants.

MikeB2Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Maarten--thanks for the link.  Looks as if one can say it pretty much however one wants.

AnneC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Mike - "Bob is woken up by the alarm clock" is definitely proper English in the UK. We might omit the "up" without much change in meaning.

Bob est réveillé

Write "Bob is woken up by the alarm clock every day." : Bob ________ le réveil tous les jours.

The correct answer is "Bob est réveillé par le réveil tous les jours.

I get that the alarm clock is the subject, that Bob is the object, so the sentence is in the passive voice. What confuses me is "est réveillé." What tense is that? Since it is habitual, I think of l'imparfait ("réveillait"). Then "est reveillé" seems like passé composé, with an auxilliare followed by the participe passé, but avoir is the auxilliare for réveiller, not être. Word Reference shows reveillé as an adjective, but it seems like a verb as it is used in this sentence.


I'm sure as soon as I hit "Ask Question" the answer will be blindingly obvious to me, but in case that doesn't happen, could someone clear this up? Thanks!

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