Comment se sont passées tes vacances ?

Nabeel D.C1Kwiziq community member

Comment se sont passées tes vacances ?

Why not ( comment tes vacances se passent-elles? ) ?

Asked 6 years ago
CécileNative French expert teacher in KwiziqCorrect answer

Hi Nabeel,

The difference between the two sentences is a question of tense.

In the lesson it is "How did your holidays go?" in the past .

Your suggestion is "How is your holiday going?" which is the present tense.

Hope this helps!

 

CécileNative French expert teacher in KwiziqCorrect answer

Hi Alan,

If I have understood correctly, you are querying the additional pronoun used in some the more complex questions .

I believe it only happens with the inversion regardless of the tense.

In your last example, you could also say - 

Où M. le Ministre est-il? but it does sound rather pompous...

Some other examples would be :

Madame, va-t-elle prendre quelque chose avec son café?

Pourquoi Juliette va-t-elle seule au cinéma?

Où les enfants sont-ils allés?

and in the original example - Comment tes vacances se sont-elles passées?

Hope this helps!

 

 

 

Alan G.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Hi Cecile,

but why isn't it "comment tes vacances se sont-elles passées"?

Don't you have to use a pronoun in the inversion, as described here:

Inverted questions in the compound past (Le Passé Composé) in French - with nouns

Alan G.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

I think I found the answer to my question. There is simple inversion ("Comment se sont passées tes vacances?") and complex inversion ("Comment tes vacances se sont-elles passées?").

Comment (and combien and quand) can be used with either form. always takes the simple form, and pourquoi always takes the complex.

Alan G.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Hmm it seems it is more complicated still. The behaviour with  also depends on the tense of the verb and the complexity of the sentence:

Où est Monsieur le Ministre?  

Où M. Le Ministre a-t-il éte reçu? 

Où M. Le Ministre est-il en ce moment?

My grammar book is not very clear on whether this also applies to comment etc.

Alan G.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Hi Cécile,

My point was that according to the lesson below (and other similar lessons), the form with an additional pronoun is always required, but it seems that actually in simple cases it is not required. (And sometimes probably should not be used, because it would sound pompous.) What defines "simple" seems to include tense.

Inverted questions in the compound past (Le Passé Composé) in French - with nouns

Nabeel D. asked:

Comment se sont passées tes vacances ?

Why not ( comment tes vacances se passent-elles? ) ?

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