Dictionary examples using "en" for people

AaronC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Dictionary examples using "en" for people

Could a native speaker weigh in on the following dictionary examples that use "en" for people?

- https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/french-english/en

>> Combien d’élèves y a-t-il dans ta classe ? – Il y en a trente. — How many pupils are there in your class? – There are 30.

- https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais-anglais/en/28919

>> Tous les invités ne sont pas arrivés, il en manque deux. — All the guests haven't arrived yet, two are missing.

Asked 5 months ago
CécileKwiziq team memberCorrect answer

Hi Aaron,

Both sentences are correct -

The first 'en' replaces élèves in -

il y en a trente

You could add, of them to the translation but it is often superfluous in English.

Int the second example 'en' replaces 'invités'.

In the translation of -

Il en manque deux 

You could say

two of them are missing

but again superfluous in English.

Necessary in French I am afraid...

 

AlanC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Possibly you are thinking of lessons like this one:

En can replace de + phrase (adverbial pronoun)

The lesson says to use en for things, but stress pronouns for people. However that doesn't apply when en is used for quantities. You can't say "il y a trente d'eux."

AaronC1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Thanks Alan. That's exactly the sort of thing I was thinking about, and why I asked the question.

Dictionary examples using "en" for people

Could a native speaker weigh in on the following dictionary examples that use "en" for people?

- https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/french-english/en

>> Combien d’élèves y a-t-il dans ta classe ? – Il y en a trente. — How many pupils are there in your class? – There are 30.

- https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais-anglais/en/28919

>> Tous les invités ne sont pas arrivés, il en manque deux. — All the guests haven't arrived yet, two are missing.

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