I thought that the "ne" was not necessary even in written text. I thought that the Acadamie Française changed it.

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Mary

Kwiziq community member

5 June 2018

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I thought that the "ne" was not necessary even in written text. I thought that the Acadamie Française changed it.

This relates to:
Avant que + ne explétif + Le Subjonctif = Before I do -

Cécile

Kwiziq language super star

18 June 2018

18/06/18

Hi Mary, 


Having done some research with other teachers in France , I am afraid that in written form the 'ne' is still very much de rigueur.


It is explétif (optional) in a few cases like after certain expressions like 'à moins que', 'avant que''sans que' and some verbs like 'craindre que', 'redouter que'  but even the Académie française say at it is de meilleure languebetter French ) to use it in written form.


Just a few examples to illustrate the point, others will be found in the lesson above and other links.


J'irai le voir à moins qu'il (ne) pleuve = I will go and see him unless it rains.


Je te le donnerai avant que tu (ne) partes. I'll give it to you before you leave.


Il fait ce qu'il veut sans que personne (ne) puisse l'arrêter. = He does what he wants without anyone being able to stop him.


Je crains qu'il (ne) mente. = I fear he is lying.


Elle redoute que son projet (ne) soit pas accepté.= She fears that her project may not be accepted.


Hope this helps!

Mary

Kwiziq community member

18 June 2018

18/06/18

Thank you so much. It was wishful thinking on my part, although I was under the impression that you did not have to use the "ne" now.  Thank you again.  I am enjoying your lessons.  Every day I find out something more that I don't know.  Mary

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