Plus que parfait ou passe compose

Ash D.C1Kwiziq community member

Plus que parfait ou passe compose

Why is plus-que-parfait used in this sentence: Après avoir été témoin de la naissance de son poulain, j'avais refusé de les quitter et la fermière m'avait laissé dormir dans l'écurie avec eux.

Doesn't plus-que-parfait suggest that the actions had occurred before something else? Because we're talking about something that happened after the birth, shouldn't it just be passe compose?

Asked 4 years ago
CélineNative French expert teacher in KwiziqCorrect answer

Bonjour Ash,

In this exercise, the main character, Jean-Luc, reflects on a key moment of his past, a key moment that occurred a long time ago / during quite a distant past / earlier stage in his life. Therefore Le Plus-que-Parfait is used correctly here. Whilst Le Passé Composé doesn’t reflect on such a distant past. It is much closer to your present timeline.

Knowing this, Le Plus-que-Parfait shows a distant past action that was preceded immediately by another distant past action.

Distant past actions [= "refusé de les quitter" + "laissé dormir"] is preceded immediately by another distant past action [= "témoin de la naissance"]

I hope this is helpful.

Bonne journée!

Alan G.C1 Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

I think the PQP has to be anterior to some other action in the simple past, but maybe it's in a previous sentence. I haven't done this exercise myself, so I can't tell, but perhaps "the day that sealed my vocation for good"? The English version also uses the pluperfect just after this: "when I'd helped". It would sound odd in English to continue using the pluperfect, but French is stricter about the sequence of tenses.

Ash D. asked:

Plus que parfait ou passe compose

Why is plus-que-parfait used in this sentence: Après avoir été témoin de la naissance de son poulain, j'avais refusé de les quitter et la fermière m'avait laissé dormir dans l'écurie avec eux.

Doesn't plus-que-parfait suggest that the actions had occurred before something else? Because we're talking about something that happened after the birth, shouldn't it just be passe compose?

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