Stress pronouns lui and elle.

Susan

Kwiziq community member

3 September 2017

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Stress pronouns lui and elle.

I am still confused about the stress pronouns lui and elle. Is there a reason why lui is used as a stress pronoun with manquer (à), but elle is not?

This relates to:
Moi, toi, lui, elle, nous, vous, eux, elles (advanced stress pronouns) -

Ron

Kwiziq community member

3 September 2017

3/09/17

Bonjour Susan,
Of all the questions about advanced stress pronouns, this is possibly the most interesting because of the verb «manquer à» Let's look at this example.
Jean lui manque. --> She/he misses Jean If you recall, the noun and pronoun orders are reversed with the verb, hence the pronoun is actually the person who feels he/she is missing someone even though literally it would be stated Jean is missing to him. i.e. he misses Jean.
Now recalling that «to him» in French becomes à lui. Therefore the phrase becomes Jean lui manque.
And from the lesson:
Notice that stress pronouns are used in the following 3 cases:
- in sentences, after prepositions (de, à, avec, derrière, pour etc),
- in comparisons, after que (plus/moins/aussi ....que),
- with the restriction ne... que (only), after que.

I hope that this is useful and that I have answered and help clarify this for you.
Bonne chance.

Susan

Kwiziq community member

3 September 2017

3/09/17

Thank you. That was exactly my understanding. However, in the A2 test that I took, the question said to translate, "She misses Jacques". I wrote "Jacques elle manque." That answer was marked incorrect, and the correct answer was given as, "Jacques lui manque." When I went back to the lesson on manquer (à), I saw that "elle" was not included in the list of stress pronouns to use before manquer. I thought there must be some special exception.

Ron

Kwiziq community member

3 September 2017

3/09/17

Bonjour encore,
So here are the pronouns, notice I did not say stress pronouns, the one uses with manquer à,
Note that to introduce the person who it lacks to, you either use manquer à + name, or to use pronouns (i.e. I, you, he, we, they... miss), you will use the me/te/lui/nous/vous/leur before manquer.
I hope this helps clarify this. Obviously, elle is used as a stress pronoun, not as a regular pronoun, for that it become «lui».
Bonne chance.

Laura

Kwiziq language super star

4 September 2017

4/09/17

Bonjour Susan,

In "She misses Jacques," the pronoun that replaces "she" is not a stress pronoun, it's an indirect object pronoun, and the feminine indirect object pronoun is the same as the masculine: lui.

Susan

Kwiziq community member

4 September 2017

4/09/17

Merci beaucoup !! I see now that it was my mistake in thinking that a stress pronoun was required in this structure.

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