'if-then' sentences using plus-que-parfait

Isabelle S.C1Kwiziq community member

'if-then' sentences using plus-que-parfait

My question was asked below, but the answers provided did not address my confusion. 
One example given in this lesson is "Si nous l'avions choisi, nous l'aurions regretté".

A previous lesson on 'if-then" sentences (Imperfect usage - hypothesis | French Grammar | Progress with Lawless French) says the following: 
 "You can never use Le Passé Composé nor other past tenses in this context."
I took this to mean that all if-then sentences must use an "imparfait + conditionel présent" form. 

But here we are using the plus-que-parfait and the conditional passé in an if-then sentence. There is no mention of the plus-que-parfait + conditional passé form in the lesson linked to above.

Can you please clarify the rules around using plus-que-parfait + conditional present in 'if-then' sentences? 

Thanks.

Asked 3 weeks ago
CécileKwiziq Native French TeacherCorrect answer

Bonjour Isabelle, 

To add to Maarten's answer, consider my response to Gregory, which students found useful. It illustrates the three cases of si-clauses -

https://progress.lawlessfrench.com/questions/view/other-types-of-si-clauses

Also, we have taken out the Attention paragraph in the lesson body as it brought confusion, so thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Maarten K.C1Kwiziq Q&A super contributor

Isabelle, 

It seems that the lesson you are referring to is about the conditional in hypothetical or ‘ unlikely/improbable’ situations - if something were to happen, then something else would happen.

 ( The lesson in your link is not about the conditional specifically, but about plus-que parfait, with one example being a conditional sentence ).

https://progress.lawlessfrench.com/revision/glossary/conjugation-tense-mood-aspect/english-present-conditional

However, the example you are questioning is about ‘ impossible ‘ situations - if something had happened in the past then something else would have happened, although neither event did.

 https://progress.lawlessfrench.com/revision/glossary/conjugation-tense-mood-aspect/english-present-conditional

 Below a couple of links on Laura Lawless site that might help further address your question regarding the French grammar usage. However, passé composé is not used in the ‘ si ‘ clause in either of these situations in French.

https://www.lawlessfrench.com/grammar/conditional-perfect/

 https://www.lawlessfrench.com/grammar/conditional-mood/

Isabelle S. asked:

'if-then' sentences using plus-que-parfait

My question was asked below, but the answers provided did not address my confusion. 
One example given in this lesson is "Si nous l'avions choisi, nous l'aurions regretté".

A previous lesson on 'if-then" sentences (Imperfect usage - hypothesis | French Grammar | Progress with Lawless French) says the following: 
 "You can never use Le Passé Composé nor other past tenses in this context."
I took this to mean that all if-then sentences must use an "imparfait + conditionel présent" form. 

But here we are using the plus-que-parfait and the conditional passé in an if-then sentence. There is no mention of the plus-que-parfait + conditional passé form in the lesson linked to above.

Can you please clarify the rules around using plus-que-parfait + conditional present in 'if-then' sentences? 

Thanks.

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