Lesson and test contradiction in usage of 'ne'?

D. G.C1Kwiziq community member

Lesson and test contradiction in usage of 'ne'?

Hello, 


This lesson, on 'san que (+ ne explétif) + the subjunctive mood', states that the use of the 'ne' is optional in modern spoken French. Additionally, it is omitted when the main verb is used with a negation.  Unsurprisingly, the lesson teaches with examples using 'ne'.


Yet, in your test I was marked wrong for doing so. Specifically, the question was to complete a sentence, which I submitted as: 

"Tu as fait tout ça sans que ne Neve soit au courant".


Yet the correct answer is shown without the 'ne'.


Have I misunderstood something here?


Thanks in advance,

D



"Tu as fait tout ça sans que ne Neve soit au courant"

Asked 1 month ago
CécileKwiziq Native French TeacherCorrect answer

Bonjour D.G.,

Looks like there should not be a 'ne' there at all, according to the lesson.

I sometimes put it in myself (a force of habit), but it's not a capital error, I am sure.

This is the accepted answer -

Tu as fait tout ça sans que Neve soit au courant

Bonne Continuaiton !

 

 

 

 

 

 

D. G.C1Kwiziq community member

Cécile, 

Many thanks for your quick response.

Of course you're right about that. Yet, the correction showed no 'ne' at all, which I do understand is okay for oral and informal French. Rather, it showed:   

"Tu as fait tout ça sans que Neve soit au courant".

Cheers, D

D. G. asked:

Lesson and test contradiction in usage of 'ne'?

Hello, 


This lesson, on 'san que (+ ne explétif) + the subjunctive mood', states that the use of the 'ne' is optional in modern spoken French. Additionally, it is omitted when the main verb is used with a negation.  Unsurprisingly, the lesson teaches with examples using 'ne'.


Yet, in your test I was marked wrong for doing so. Specifically, the question was to complete a sentence, which I submitted as: 

"Tu as fait tout ça sans que ne Neve soit au courant".


Yet the correct answer is shown without the 'ne'.


Have I misunderstood something here?


Thanks in advance,

D



"Tu as fait tout ça sans que ne Neve soit au courant"

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