on is a singular for we. It takes an auxillary verb in the singular; therefor the past participle should be single also so it should be on est allé

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peter

Kwiziq community member

15 August 2018

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on is a singular for we. It takes an auxillary verb in the singular; therefor the past participle should be single also so it should be on est allé

This relates to:
Agreeing past participle with 'on' (compound tenses) -

Chris

Kwiziq community member

15 August 2018

15/08/18

Hi Peter,


there are numerous posts and explanations under this topic already. Can you point to what explicitly you don't understand?


-- Chris.

peter

Kwiziq community member

15 August 2018

15/08/18

I do not understand why the past participle is plural when the modifying verb and indeed the subject are single. In general French is a logical language and single subjects take single verbs not verbs which are part single and part plural and I was never taught this exception

Chris

Kwiziq community member

16 August 2018

16/08/18

Well, what can I say. A language is not math. 


-- Chris. 

Cécile

Kwiziq language super star

16 August 2018

16/08/18

Hi,


I agree with Peter that it is a strange one but as odd as it may be, 'on doit l'accepter'.


Just to recap -  


1.  When  'on' means 'we', the past participle will agree in gender and number to whom it refers to:


Marianne et moi (Cécile), on est allées au Portugal pour nos vacances d'été.


On est sortis en bande avec des copains hier soir.


On est rentrés tard hier soir après une bonne journée passée en famille.


On s'est séparées à regret, mes amies d'école et moi.


2. When 'On' stands for 'tout le monde', 'les gens', 'en général' , it will stay in the third person singular as in:


On n'est jamais si bien servi que par soi-même = If you want something done right, do it yourself


Quand on a reçu un don, on a des obligations =  When you receive a gift, it creates obligations


Hope this helps!


 

peter

Kwiziq community member

16 August 2018

16/08/18

thanks this is a very lucid explanation  merci

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