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Stuart asked: "Could we not also say "une valeur sûre" as well as "une valeur certaine"? "

AurélieKwiziq team member

Stuart asked: "Could we not also say "une valeur sûre" as well as "une valeur certaine"? "

Sa collection de tableaux a une ___ . (His painting collection has sure value.)
Asked 3 years ago
AurélieKwiziq team memberCorrect answer
Bonjour Stuart ! That's an interesting case! Indeed, "une valeur sûre" could seem to be a possible synonym here for "une valeur certaine", however they don't actually mean the same thing in French. ​ ​Look at this sentence: "Fais-moi confiance, c'est une valeur sûre !" (Trust me, it's a safe bet / a sure thing / a valued asset!) ​Note that you use it with "être", and would never say "avoir une valeur sûre". I hope that's helpful! À bientôt !
AurélieKwiziq team memberCorrect answer

Bonjour David !

I looked at the examples you provided and:

On a une valeur sûre avec Lisa Angeli.  
-> Here it's the same case I mentioned, where it means she is a reliable talent for these people. This sentence means that "they have a reliable winner in her."

As for the other examples, I must admit that they seem valid, though I've never used this expression like this myself.

I will therefore amend the question to accept both answers :)

Merci et bonne journée !

 

PhillipC1Kwiziq community member
Hi Aurélie, That's a tricky point; I think most anglophones would use the two (certain , sure) interchangeably. You might consider integrating it in a quiz or placing a note in one of the lessons. Keep up the good work !
DavidC1Kwiziq Q&A regular contributor

Here are examples of French speakers using "une valeur sûre" with avoir:

https://www.public.fr/Public-TV/Scoop-Public-TV/Exclu-Video-Stephane-Bern-Eurovision-2015-On-a-une-valeur-sure-avec-Lisa-Angell-730072

http://www.alterinfo.net/L-arnaque-de-la-recuperation-des-bijoux-en-or-par-des-operateurs-financiers-prives_a55634.html

(Comment #29)

https://vancouver.consulfrance.org/Notariat-et-legalisations-de-signature-Procedure

Stuart asked: "Could we not also say "une valeur sûre" as well as "une valeur certaine"? "

Sa collection de tableaux a une ___ . (His painting collection has sure value.)

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