Reflexive verbs (se moquer)I guess I find most reflexive verbs make some kind of sense in that I can see that an action is performed on oneself (e.g. se laver) or somehow internalized (e.g. s'amuser, se demander), Sometimes however I just need to know how words get formed and se moquer has me puzzled.
Best I can tell, it has been around as a reflexive verb for at least 500 years and probably comes from blowing your nose at someone as a gesture of contempt (vulgar Latin: muccare), as such it makes sense to be reflexive - as of course is the modern se moucher . Other theories are se moquer comes from dutch, german or piedmontese words for mumble, grumble or grimace, which also kind of makes sense as reflexives. BTW the theory it comes from Norman words for 'stirring manure' has been discredited* which is just as well because that wouldn't explain the reflexive
I appreciate this isn't exactly a level A1 question, but I was wondering if anyone out there can confirm or deny my theories?
*Accordng to Tresor de la Lange Francaise
Why is this sentence je ferai parvenir le dossier à Jean dès que possible put the prounoun lui before ferai?
But Tuesday devrais prêter attention when ce qu'il dit put the pronoun between devrais and prêter?
Thanks for helping
As in, I know that 'un' in masculine, and 'une' is feminine, but how do you tell if an everyday object is masculine or feminine.
Why is it when I asked to be 'kwizzed' on just this lesson, included in the quizz are questions from all of my 'recommended lessons'? How do I go about finding a quiz with just 'question word' questions in order to give me extra practise with question words?
Thanks for your help........Thirza
This is how clueless I am. At reading the sentence about the missing ring I wondered at first; "Did he steal a ring from her?" It took this 61 year-old a minute to grasp that he took the ring in order to get her ring-size! (I must admit, I would never have thought of that!) Gary
I guess I find most reflexive verbs make some kind of sense in that I can see that an action is performed on oneself (e.g. se laver) or somehow internalized (e.g. s'amuser, se demander), Sometimes however I just need to know how words get formed and se moquer has me puzzled.
Best I can tell, it has been around as a reflexive verb for at least 500 years and probably comes from blowing your nose at someone as a gesture of contempt (vulgar Latin: muccare), as such it makes sense to be reflexive - as of course is the modern se moucher . Other theories are se moquer comes from dutch, german or piedmontese words for mumble, grumble or grimace, which also kind of makes sense as reflexives. BTW the theory it comes from Norman words for 'stirring manure' has been discredited* which is just as well because that wouldn't explain the reflexive
I appreciate this isn't exactly a level A1 question, but I was wondering if anyone out there can confirm or deny my theories?
*Accordng to Tresor de la Lange Francaise
Bonjour Aurélie et Cécile,
My problem is with this phrase in the above writing lesson
"...jacket that I bought FROM you two weeks ago." Correct translation given is :"que je vous ai achetée il y a deux semaines."
I can't find the lesson describing this usage of object pronouns. Why is it not "que j'ai acheté DE vous"? Does not "que je vous ai acheté" mean that I bought FOR you? Please explain using FROM in this context. Thanks!
This lesson needs to be redone into more than one lesson because it's too complicated, confusing and frustrating. As soon as I finish studying it, I forget what refers to what.
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